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    Default What movie has the most gratuitous sex scene?

    A movie with well known actors, so you ask yourself "Why did they agree to that?"

    Before I would said Mad Dog and Glory with Uma Thurman, Robert Dinero and Bill Murry. Seeing Uma Thurman was nice, but it didn't move the story forward at all. Wasn't necessary to the movie at all.

    Now having just watched it I'd vote for Monster's Ball with Billy Bob Thornton, Halle Berry and Heath Ledger. Again, nice to see Halle Berry, but they could have shot around it and it wouldn't have made any difference.

    Any other nominations?

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    Antichrist with Willem Defoe.

    Not that I'm complaining but it ventured well past a sex scene and turned into a porn shoot. Only Feature film I've seen that had such a graphic sex scene.

    Oh, wont someone think of the children!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Mingo View Post
    Antichrist with Willem Defoe.

    Not that I'm complaining but it ventured well past a sex scene and turned into a porn shoot. Only Feature film I've seen that had such a graphic sex scene.

    Oh, wont someone think of the children!

    Have a look at basically any episode of "Spartacus: Blood and Sand"...
    (I know subject says "what movie", but tv series are like super-long extended version films, at least the ones with continuity of action)

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    Duke, I guess you and I must have very different definitions of "gratuitous" — I would say a sex scene is gratuitous when it serves no purpose to the story and is included only to arouse or titillate the audience. I'd use that phrase to describe most dopey R-rated teen sex comedies like Porky's, Private Resort, Hardbodies, EuroTrip and Virgin Territory. Oh, and I can't forget my nomination for the most godawful and unnecessary remake of all time, 1981's The Postman Always Rings Twice (Lana Turner shooting significant glances at John Garfield = sexy. Jack Nicholson shoving his tongue down Jessica Lange's throat and overturning the furniture = gross & embarassing).

    Halle Berry has done some "gratuitious" nudity — did she really need to show Hugh Jackman (and the audience) her breasts in Swordfish? How did that develop the characters or advance the plot in any way? However the only movie sex scene I can recall that is perhaps less titillating and gratuitious than the lonely, desperate, brutal one between she and Billy Bob Thornton in Monster's Ball is Jodie Foster's rape in The Accused.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erik Bien View Post
    Halle Berry has done some "gratuitious" nudity — did she really need to show Hugh Jackman (and the audience) her breasts in Swordfish? How did that develop the characters or advance the plot in any way?
    Very gratuitious, yet I was as very pleasantly surprised to see them there

    The Accused needed the rape scene. It wasn't gratuitious "flesh flashing" there, the scene was played and filmed very well, and it added some artistic weight to entire movie. But yes, all other flicks you've mentioned had boobs there just to draw horny young males attention.

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    Erik,

    I think we're talking about the same thing. I could make an argument that the desperate sex scene between Halle Berry and Billy Bob was necessary, but not necessary to be so graphic.

    On the other hand in the same movie the sex scene between Heath Ledger and the prostitute wasn't necessary. I understand they wanted the juxtaposition of the father and the son with the same prostitute, and then the prostitute bringing up the son without knowing that he died, but anyone could have brought up the son after he died. It didn't need to be as they were about to have sex.

    As an aside that was the same hotel room that preacher (Jimmy Swaggert??) was caught in.

    I think Jodie Foster's rape scene was brutal, but a part of the story.

    Most of the R rated comedies you mentioned were a flash of boobs, which I don't really consider a sex scene. In Europe when they advertise a women's bath soap they show the entire woman in the shower. That's not sex, just a little nudity, which I think we're a bit hung up about here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duke View Post
    Erik,

    I think we're talking about the same thing. I could make an argument that the desperate sex scene between Halle Berry and Billy Bob was necessary, but not necessary to be so graphic.
    Ha ha...this movie scene is exactly why I started that old thread about “where do we draw the line…sex”…or whatever I asked. I watched that movie…didn’t expect that scene and was like….huh? I got the desperate relationship part but felt like it was just all about unnecessary shock and awe.

    I like Hale Berry and all…but I’ll be the first to admit that sex scene is the main reason why she won that Oscar…nothing less. I’ve seen her play other roles with much more depth…but just like Robert Downey Jr.s comment in “Tropical Thunder” about having to go “Full Tard” in order to win an Oscar (or was it “never” go full tard???)… well…you get my point…lol

    But to answer your original question Duke…I also vote for “Monster’s Ball.”
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    Jodie Foster's rape in The Accused.
    Was definitely well shot, and well acted by Jodie Foster.

    Another candidate was 'Original Sin' with Angelina Jolie and Antonio Banderas.

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    Bruno, the singing penis scene. Did hte penis really need to sing? I think that was very gratuitous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel Rutter View Post
    Another candidate was 'Original Sin' with Angelina Jolie and Antonio Banderas.
    You have to be pretty exhibitionistic to do that. I don't think they were acting.

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    I don't think they were acting.
    Well I find it hard to believe that both actors' partners would have been happy with it (Antonio's been married to Melanie Griffiths for over 11 years I believe...), but indeed... it was pretty realistic looking!

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    A lot of neo-Noir sexy suspense thrillers — Body Heat, The Last Seduction, Wild Things, Unfaithful — feature sex scenes ranging from steamy to explicit. Obviously that's a big part of their appeal, but at least in those films (all of which, btw, I liked) it seems organic both to the story as well as the noir traditions of the femme fatale and the hapless rube caught in her web.

    It just seems really odd to me to single out Monster's Ball; I thought it was one of the most truly 'adult' films I'd ever seen, in that every character had flaws which made them almost impossible to like, yet they also each had redeeming vulnerabilities which made them impossible to hate. I thought it was a very gutsy filmmaking choice to do a very explicit sex scene that was absolutely not intended to be the least bit arousing to the audience — I think they wanted it to be depressing and make the audience uncomfortable.

    That Halle Berry, an actress whose talent has somehow seemingly been overshadowed by her beauty (personally, I knew she had skillz after seeing her as a crackhead in Jungle Fever) was able to play that scene to such un-erotic, un-romantic effect is, IMHO, the biggest reason she deserved that Oscar!

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    I don't know if it's gratuitous but Choke has some great sexy scenes. They are so raw, and so not Hollywood. The actors are not glamorous, not Halle Berry or Angelina Jolie, and they aren't lit with soft lights, no extensive make up, they look like normal people having sex. It's very erotic.

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    @Erik,

    I'm not knocking Monster's Ball. Reread post #6 above. Halle Berry's sex scene had some reason for it, though they didn't have to go as far with it as they did to convey the idea and emotions.

    I thought the sex scene in Monster's Ball with Heath Ledger was gratuitous in that it didn't move the story forward no matter how sexy the blond prostitute was. (Did anyone catch her name?)

    Overall I think Monster's ball was a good movie. For that matter I thought Mad Dog and Glory was a good movie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duke View Post
    @Erik,

    I'm not knocking Monster's Ball. Reread post #6 above. Halle Berry's sex scene had some reason for it, though they didn't have to go as far with it as they did to convey the idea and emotions.

    I thought the sex scene in Monster's Ball with Heath Ledger was gratuitous in that it didn't move the story forward no matter how sexy the blond prostitute was. (Did anyone catch her name?)

    Overall I think Monster's ball was a good movie. For that matter I thought Mad Dog and Glory was a good movie.
    What sex scenes DO move the movie forward?

    I mean, tons of movies have sex scenes. You can show almost nothing, or almost everything.

    Does it move the story forward more if you show almost nothing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gillvane View Post
    I don't know if it's gratuitous but Choke has some great sexy scenes. They are so raw, and so not Hollywood. The actors are not glamorous, not Halle Berry or Angelina Jolie, and they aren't lit with soft lights, no extensive make up, they look like normal people having sex. It's very erotic.
    "Do an around the world baby" I really do like the actress in Choke, whats her name, Kate Macdonald? She definitely has a natural beauty thing going on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erik Bien View Post
    Halle Berry has done some "gratuitious" nudity — did she really need to show Hugh Jackman (and the audience) her breasts in Swordfish? How did that develop the characters or advance the plot in any way?
    That wasn't the intention. However, as for advancing her career and status among the public...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gillvane View Post
    What sex scenes DO move the movie forward?

    I mean, tons of movies have sex scenes. You can show almost nothing, or almost everything.

    Does it move the story forward more if you show almost nothing?
    It depends on what emotion you are trying to convey. I would defend to the death the scene where Jodie Foster gets raped. Its brutal, its awful, but I can't think of anything else that would have conveyed the brutality as well as that scene did. Showing her getting grabbed then later in the hospital all beaten up would have conveyed the idea intellectually, but not the emotions.

    I'm asking about gratuitous sex scenes. One definition of Gratuitous is "not involving a return benefit."

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    All of them are, unless it's porn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duke View Post
    It depends on what emotion you are trying to convey. I would defend to the death the scene where Jodie Foster gets raped. Its brutal, its awful, but I can't think of anything else that would have conveyed the brutality as well as that scene did. Showing her getting grabbed then later in the hospital all beaten up would have conveyed the idea intellectually, but not the emotions.

    I'm asking about gratuitous sex scenes. One definition of Gratuitous is "not involving a return benefit."

    The Jodie Foster scene is extremely sexy. I'd say it was gratuitous, but that's not necessarily a bad thing.

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