Iron Sky
Saw it today - hilarious, totally irreverent, lots of laughs. Recommended!
(Provided you don't take it seriously - but who can? Personally, I dislike "serious" sci-fi movies, they are always unbelievable. But make them fun and ironic - and you're in for a ride!)
Really Janke? If its unbelievable its not a sci-fi. A true sci-fi would at least have to be plausible.Originally Posted by Janke
Anyway, I'm a sci-fi buff and the best sci-fi are the ones that take themselves seriously. Otherwise, they're just comedy.
Incidentally, thanks for the warning. I won't be watching it.
Well, in one single case, I do agree: Kubrick's 2001.
But, any "serious" sci-fi movie (and by serious I mean one with no humor, no references to other sci-fi, no "wink in the eye") - I'm not so sure. Just so you know, I consider "Alien" more action/horror than sci-fi, and pretty unbelievable at that (plausible - yes, if you stretch your imagination), and "Blade Runner" more of a crime/grime movie. They just happen to have a sci-fi setting.
Can you give an example of what you consider a "serious", pure sci-fi movie?
To me, Contact comes to mind. I think the OP is differentiating between a comedy with a sci-fi setting and a sci-fi movie with comedic elements like Star Wars.
By the way, 2001 is my favorite movie of all time.
Last edited by Khaver; 2012 May 25th at 08:39.
Agree 100% - 2001 is still today the ultimate sci-fi movie, as both ACC and SK decided to make... no other sci-fi movie has topped that realism - and remember, it was made in the mid-60s, without computers! (Not even the slit-scan star gate effect was digital!)
Contact - not bad, but not up to the class of 2001 - even though Carl Sagan was involved...
Certainly, the quintessential sci-fi of course would be the Star Trek series. Second to that would be the Stagate series and its derivatives.
In my definition two things make a true sci-fi:
1) The characters exist purely in the world or environment they are cast where they react to elements in a true to life fashion. And 2) That there is some explanation with a scientific connection to any elements, entity, form, device, or phenomenon they come in contact with. If these things are not explainable scientifically, then I wouldn't call it a sci-fi. It would be a fantasy.I wouldn't call Alien a sci-fi either, rather, a horror movie. (The foundation of many sci-fis was horror. Recall, that in the 50' a lot of monsters came from outer space.)Just so you know, I consider "Alien" more action/horror than sci-fi, and pretty unbelievable at that (plausible - yes, if you stretch your imagination),Blade Runner...humm? Lets see: Future settings? Deals with synthetic lifeforms and/or the altering of human genetics. It makes an attempt to give a plausible scientific explanation to the creation and/or existence of such creatures and how they might struggle with human emotions. There is present day science to support this. Yes, definitely a sci-fi.and "Blade Runner" more of a crime/grime movie. They just happen to have a sci-fi setting.Contact undeniably. Star Wars no way. It is a Western/Adventure set in space.
Last edited by Krane; 2012 May 25th at 18:50.
I guess I'm kind of lost with all your definitions.
Couldn't EVERY movie be classified like that:
Citizen Kane is a pure SciFi movie set [partly] in NYC around the turn of the century.
12 Angry Men is THE classic SciFi movie, set in 50's New York.
Last edited by 1; 2012 May 25th at 19:03.
No. You isolated the second part without first applying the first part. Besides Citizen Kane and 12 Angry Men deal with a social, political and/or psychological subjects. Neither have anything to do with science fiction.
I could go on but it would become a very long (and to most boring) thread. Would you like me to elaborate?
Well, depends....I'm not really that clever, so probably won't understand it anyway.
I do know that Firefly was a Western SciFi. And it was good!
Yes, Whedon's style I know. The sci-fi element was forced.Well, depends....I'm not really that clever, so probably won't understand it anyway.
I do know that Firefly was a Western SciFi. And it was good!
Ahhh! Just read the BluRay.com's review about it. Last line of it:
Despite not quite being as funny as it really should have been, with caveats noted, Iron Sky comes Recommended.
I think what he means (and i agree) is that you could take all the sci-fi elements out of Star Wars; replace laser swords and guns with regular ones, space craft with trains planes and automobiles, the robots and aliens with "exotic" foreigners, holograms with an answering machine and so on, and you would still end up with a perfectly understandable movie. It's just regular action adventure wrapped up in sci-fi imagery.Well, depends....I'm not really that clever, so probably won't understand it anyway.
But you can't replace the space ship from 2001 with a sailing yacht, or the message in Contact with a phone call from a stranger, the sci-fi elements are essential to the story on these.
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This said, i dig Iron Sky a lot, well worth the ticket price. I'm probably kinda biased though, i did a bit of 3D work for the same crew in their previous movie, Star Wreck - In the Pirkinning.
Last edited by Halsu; 2012 October 3rd at 01:36.
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Never head of it but it looks like a real hoot!
I'll keep an eye out for it when it comes to TV.
Has anyone seen "The Master" ?
I heard an interesting interview of the director (?maybe) on NPR yesterday.
He was talking about 70mm film and cameras and rich color and getting "that 50's look."
Interesting. Paul Thomas Anderson (not to be confused with Paul W.S. Anderson!!) is a great director and has many awesome movies under his belt. It looks like he shot it entirely on 70mm. Looks promising, especially for the BluRay transfer!
So, Joaquin Phoenix still had a normal face under all that hair. Who knew?
That's how waning stars get to reinvent their careers. Clever, don't you think?So, Joaquin Phoenix still had a normal face under all that hair. Who knew?
Hey, he looks like me... he just has a bit more hair on the head.
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