FCP X will not work with hv 30 tape ?
Im just getting the hang of using final cut 6 but no longer have install disks. I am interested in learning more intensively to use final cut and Was offered a good deal to buy fcp x . It would probably be smart to apply myself to learning the latest program but from what ive read it wont work with tape and most of my footage is tape ,hv 30. Not sure i want to update everything i own just for an editing program ...any imput would be very appreciated.
Nonsense. FCP X works perfectly with (H)DV. There's even an "Import from Camera" button. It doesn't work with "profesional" tape standards though.
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Well Thats made my day finer! Thanks CG !Originally Posted by cgbier
So it can import and export back to tape on our trusty hv 30 ? Have you used FCPX ? Would you choose it over earlier versions?
Seems you don't know CG very well... He's the expert on FCPX!
The write back to tape doesn't exist any more. You'd need a Kona card or something similar.
I wouldn't call myself an expert. I just use it from day one.
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That's a pity. Glad I still have FCE...
Well, when you have a Kona or similar card, it still works. FCP X has outsourced stuff like that to third party guys. FCP X is only the skeleton, and apple provides the hooks within the software for third parties to attach their apps to.
Looks like apple wanted create a complete industry around FCP, like did with their iGizmos.
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Yes, I definitively would (meanwhile) choose it over earlier versions. I haven't seen any other software that you can learn that fast, and that lets you edit that quick. Once you get used to the magnetic timeline, you can get a rough cut cut together in no time. Important is that you organize your media before you start editing. FCP X database system is terrific for organizing stuff. You can attach keywords and flags to your footage, and FCP X sorts it into folders based on those keywords.Well Thats made my day finer! Thanks CG !
Would you choose it over earlier versions?
The skimmer is a great tool for a quick review of your media (just turn off the audio skimmer - it might drive you nuts).
The only shortcoming I see is the demise of DVDSP, and that you can't roundtrip to Motion and STP anymore. You can burn DVD and BD right from the share menu, but, at least DVD, they are only meant as screeners. I still use Compressor/DVDSP to create my DVDs.
I still have FCS2 and Premiere 5.5 installed (CS6 on order), but I rarely, if ever, use them anymore. They simply feel so clumsy to me now.
CS6 has taken some hints from FCP X. I'll see how that works out.
Download the trial version and play around with it. Izzyvideo has a complete tutorial up for free. I dunno though if he ever has updated it to reflect the FCP X updates (there have been a lot of changes in FCP X over the last 11 months).
If you have any questions, you know where to find me...
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FCPX is 64 bit, that alone makes all other versions obsolete. Besides, when Apple abandons its own products you know its dead.Well Thats made my day finer! Thanks CG !
So it can import and export back to tape on our trusty hv 30 ? Have you used FCPX ? Would you choose it over earlier versions?
Thanks for the reminder, Krane.
Fool's Crow, what machine are you planning to install FCP X? You need a pretty new CPU with a tough GPU for it.
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Good to have that info cg. Ive done many aspects of filmaking , even editing on steenbecks , but computer editing is my weak point. Just got into macs and FCp recently and just trying to figure it all out with my swiss cheese brain...finally finished my first editing job...and want to learn and figure i may as well learn on the latest version , especially if it has been made less complicated...especially to import various mediums and export to yutube dvd etc...so the info here is VERY helpful. Ive never used a Kona but it looks pretty straight forward and doesnt cost much. As long as i can still use the HV 30 and somehow export to save the finished project to tape then it will work out. if i keep my old version of FCP6 with STP etc then if i need to use those programs i can always work it there and import back to FCPx im guessing. honesty im guessing my way all around but eventually i get there!
You only need the Kona card if you want to capture uncompressed video via HDMI and for editing back tape. As you want to keep FCP 6 in any way, you don't need it. Use FCP6 to write your projects to tape.
The minimum requirements for FCP X: http://www.apple.com/finalcutpro/specs/
And don't forget to check out compatible GPUs: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4664?v...S&locale=en_US
Don't believe Apple with the Intel HD3000 - that thing sucks, and only works somewhat for SD video.
I have FCP X running on a 2007 iMac, even though it is not supported. It runs (slowly), but I don't get realtime effects and stuff.
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not sure what that lingo means though i will figure it all out...so are you telling me that i need to buy a new mac then...may be ready to do that if i dont spend a fortune...ive been REALLY happy with my MBP , NEVER failed me , but maybe i need to update to use FCX properly...i of course have XHDs too...sorry for my lack of knowledge! what i have now is a second hand ...Model Name: MacBook Pro
Model Identifier: MacBookPro2,2
Processor Name: Intel Core 2 Duo
Processor Speed: 2.16 GHz
Number Of Processors: 1
Total Number Of Cores: 2
L2 Cache: 4 MB
Memory: 3 GB
Bus Speed: 667 MHz
Boot ROM Version: MBP22.00A5.B07
SMC Version (system): 1.12f5
what mac would i be looking for? Can it still be a MBP? This is a great help guys!
Sorry, your's is way too old.
I have a 2010 MBP that works perfectly well with FCP X. As long as you use your old MBP, keep on using FCP6.
No install disks? You surely have a Time Machine backup of your system. That'll help you when something goes wrong. You can restore FCP6 from your Time Machine.
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CG I am ready to invest to be able to upgrade to the equipt that is required to really get into editing. Its the missing link.Ive waited a LONG time for this and the time hs come! Can you please list the specifics of what MAc , system etc which i should look for. I will sell what i have now and look for the upgrade equipment second hand. I just really need to know what to look for! THANKS FOR ALL YOUR HELP> A beacon of light in the darkness!
Basically any Mac from the last two to three years will do.
If you don't really need a laptop, I'd go with a 27" iMac with at least an i5 Processor (2010 models and up IIRC). Beef it up to the maximum of RAM that fits in there. With OWC RAM sticks you can go double the RAM that Apple allows for. The GPU should have at least 512MB. Make sure it is NOT an nVidia GPU to get the most out of it. FCP X is optimized for AMD/ATI.
A killer machine would be an i7 iMac with 16GB RAM and a 2GB GPU.
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Sorry if my questions are ridiculous....i dont know so much of the lingo..And have alot to learn....so right now i was hoping that a refurbished mbp 2011 15 " would be good for fcx. I am often on the road so i would be able to take the mbp with an xhd with me.small works for me. Then when home i do use another monitor and xhd and anything else that would help with using this program. The refurb mbp s seem to be 4 gb with 512 gpu and i think once i have more cash to contrbute at a later date more can be added to both. So would that be enough to function. Would the owc ram sticks be something that need to be installed or are they like flash drive sticks...??? Im on the edge of going ahead and beggining this sale so i greatful for this input
That MBP will do fine. Just get more RAM from OWC. You should go to 8GB. They need to be installed, but that'a piece of cake (unscrew the MBP's bottom, unclip the old chips, clip in the new ones, screw on the bottom). It's no rocket science.
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To connect a non-Apple monitor, you need to cough out about 30 bucks for a MDP > DVI adaptor. ...and only use Firewire external drives. USB is too slow for editing.
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Could i not just install the owc 8gb into the mbp i already have? I was told when i installed the extra gb in it now ,bringing it to 3 gb, that that was the max it could go. Something about the spinning speed of something other part would not be able to handle more....If it needs to be the newer 2011, will the rest of the machine be able to adapt properly to that extra ram? If i bought the 1 year warratee on the refurb mac and apple care will it still be covered if i add the ram from owc.
Everything in my small town is way more expensive....no competition...i usually have to order through mail b&h and cutoms etc but its still worth the hassle...for example a vga cord to connect mbp to monitor here is 60$ same cord b&h 15! Once i get this clarification i am going to look into the refurb mac. Im nervous!
[QUOTE=The GPU should have at least 512MB. Make sure it is NOT an nVidia GPU to get the most out of it. FCP X is optimized for AMD/ATI.
Ok i dont know what that is. Does the mbp 2011 i mentioned have the nvidia gpu? Is it optimized for amd /ati?
Holy fuck batman i feel like in a forgein country now...i Cant understand the language !hope there is some good salsa here!
That's just a Core 2 machine, not really powerful enough for FCPX.
I do have a similar CPU in my Macbook, it handles FCE really well, but will choke on the more heavy codecs in FCPX.
The GPU in your MacBook is not supported. You can't upgrade the RAM either.
My MBP has an nVidia too. It works, but you get more oomph from the newer ones with the AMD cards. Especially, when you work a lot with effects.
Don't wory too much. The MBP you have your eye on will do a terrific job (with 8GB)
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