That was the first thing that came to my mind. It took me back to my childhood. Although I only have one working model as a kid, I loved it more than anything.Originally Posted by Bertzie
Not sure what he meant by painting the blocks black though? Wish you would had embellished the nuances of train a bit more Janke. I also loved the garden. Yes, I garden.
The video was actually just a documentation, intended for another forum (livesteam.net), so the narration was directed to other train hobbyists.
The patio stones closest to the street are painted with black (actually gray) masonry paint, to reduce the visibility of the track from the street. Vandals, you know - the less they notice, the less they destroy...
For more train videos, just go to my FinnishLivesteam account on YouTube... a lot more "nuances" there, including this:
On-topic content: Notice the camera shake in the shots; here, a simple stabilizer was used in many of the scenes...
Hi Janke, if you don't know it you will love: Keith Roberts' Pavane.
It is an alternative history where the Pope banned the internal combustion engine. There is a wonderful story of a steam road train. The driver remembers how his father beat him because he forgot to drain water from the cylinder and the piston cracked it.
There are also semaphores because the Pope forbids electric communication.
To stay on topic: This Pope would of course also ban optical image stabilizers.
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Am I right in the assumption that you guys wouldn't like this nifty little plugin: http://www.fcp.co/media/kunena/attac...hakeEffect.zip ?
"It is dark the other side. Very dark!" - "Oh, shut up and eat your toast!"
No idea what this is about but a good stabilizer is a must have these days. However, the optical stabilizer can only do so much. In additions, they're not all created equally.
If the internal stabilization isn't sufficient, theres always the external variety which vary in price from 100-$1000 for the HVxx size cameras and the like.If thats a shake/stabilizer software they are also available on most NLE editors.
Damn it Janke! That video and its related videos kept me up all night watching steam train videos
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Nope, Krane this is a camera shake simulator. It adds shake to your footage.
"It is dark the other side. Very dark!" - "Oh, shut up and eat your toast!"
Kamera Krane? Kranes are stabilized..
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I made myself a very nice one for free: To film from the vibrating car I put a big cinder-block in an old backpack, hung it from the passenger seat and clamped the camera to it. I still had to strap the top of the passengers seat to the back to stop it moving but it worked very well. It was amazing how many people noticed and waved.
When someone else was driving a tripod with two legs on my feet and one on the seat also worked well.
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Saw through me did ya? Well aren't you the clever thing.
Yet another example of annoying camera shake: So the other day I go youtube figuring I'd watch a few review videos on the Canon Xl105 (one of two cameras I've narrowed down to purchase). Not a few seconds into the review as I'm trying to look at the camera and the idiot camera operator started swaying back and forth. If that wasn't bad enough, the bird brain then figured he'd throw in those stupid repeated snap zooms for good measure. Swosh! right up to the speakers face.
Where on earth did all this retarded camera antics come from? It was like trying to watch a product from a roller coaster. This happy horse nonsense is driving me crazy? Since when do you need to add shake to a hand held shot? Anyway, I wanted to strangle that camera operator.
End rant.
What say you?
Must have been this camera operator I'm talking about?
Last edited by Krane; 2012 June 20th at 17:37.
Krane, there some XF footage shot handheld from a motorbike. I linked it somewhere in an XF thread. Check it out.
I'm not sure why you want to spend the extra dough for the 105, but this little cam is mightily amazing.
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My two cents (sorry if this has been said before, just coming in now) -
I like a bit of camera shake. I find overuse of sliders and dollys and clean smooth shots makes any video look corporate and thus unaesthetic and unpleasing to my eyes. There's something beautiful about the rawness of film. Tripod yes from time to time, sliders as seldom as possible!
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Sorry but no. And if Garrett Brown read this he would be convulsing as I am now. And unless its adding something to the intensity of the story, a shaking camera is the clearer sign of an amateur.Enhanced flexibility. And in future anticipation of expanding my work into 3D.
Last edited by Krane; 2012 June 20th at 19:42.
Film has nothing to do with camera shake.
Film was the silver-gelatin-emulsion-coated, cellulose-based long strip (usually 35mm or 16mm wide) once used for producing moving pictures.
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I'm with you there - they suck!
still being used and will continue to be used!
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Only because they are OVERUSED especially nowadays they are synonymous with DSLRs.... non stop sliding movement. So annoying!!!!! READ a film BOOK people! It's called a dolly or tracking shot. It was not meant to be used 99.5% of the time.
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I can think of one single example where camera shake is expected: If you are inside a car/truck and it goes over a bump.
Directors please note: This does not apply to spacecraft!
Last edited by Playing; 2012 June 21st at 04:42.
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What I meant was film both digital and actual film in contrast with commercial videos ect.. And this rawness is amplified and made more significant with a bit of shaking here and there. And I like rawness.
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Not by me, anymore.
Of the film stock manufacturers, Agfa went bankrupt, Kodak is in trouble, Fuji... well, we'll see.
Nobody is running steam locomotives anymore, either (nobody sane, I mean...
This wouldn't be the first time the end of film was foretold. The invention of video tape way back in the 50's was suppose to do that.Not by me, anymore.
Of the film stock manufacturers, Agfa went bankrupt, Kodak is in trouble, Fuji... well, we'll see.
Nobody is running steam locomotives anymore, either (nobody sane, I mean...
(Yes, I've said all this has been said before but Janke started it)The show had great potential, just not very good writers. If it was a sci-fi made, I've seen it.
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