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    Default NEW Sony NEX-EA50UH Camcorder

    Here it is, a DSLR camera built for run and gunners and documentary/event shooters at a very affordable price of around $4000-$4500.

    http://www.bhphotovideo.com/indepth/...beautiful-bird


    - Offers 60fps in 1080p
    - Shoots in 60i so makes it viable for videography work, WITH the benefits of a DSLR sensor.
    - 13 hours of continuous record time
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    It looks good, but the copywriting hyperbole makes me puke:

    The NEX-EA50UH was designed with this in mind and it improves on the concept by combining an APS-C sensor, E-mount lenses, and DSLR quality still photographs with a camcorder form factor, servo zoom lenses, timecode, and professional audio recording capabilities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Benway View Post
    It looks good, but the copywriting hyperbole makes me puke:

    The NEX-EA50UH was designed with this in mind and it improves on the concept by combining an APS-C sensor, E-mount lenses, and DSLR quality still photographs with a camcorder form factor, servo zoom lenses, timecode, and professional audio recording capabilities.
    Doc - where is the hyperbole? I've taken 16MP APS-C DSLR quality still photographs with its predecessor, the NEX-VG20. And it shoots RAW. My guess is that it is a pretty good still camera - and a lot of still/video ENG shooters are going to buy it.

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    Anyone know if this video camera will have moiré issues? I had actually bought and used their NEX-VG10 model briefly some time ago, but ended up returning it due to all the image crawl I kept seeing. It doesn't seem to bother others but it drove me nuts to where I preferred the footage coming from a lowly 550v to what I was getting on the vg10. Hence now I get a nervous twitch anytime I read dslr sensor in a video camera.

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    You know the human eye also has these problems right?

    The price dropped to $3600 on BH btw.

    For me personally, its the cheapest tapeless pro camera on market which can replace my XHA1.

    I am used to shooting 1.6x crop so i already have the needed lenses for this though.

    Its certainly not as good as full frame or super 35, but if t3i is good enough this will also be good enough, with more pro controls and longer recording times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blondandfun View Post
    You know the human eye also has these problems right?
    No it does not.

    When talking about DSLR moire, it's aliasing that occurs in a high resolution camera that skip pixels to get down to video resolution. This moire is caused by detail that's smaller than a pixel, for example, a straight line may be visible in one pixel, hidden (skipped) in the next, again visible in the one after that.

    This camera probably will have minimal aliasing/moire, as it's a dedicated video camera - it's unlikely Sony would release a substandard (semi) professional video camera in this respect.

    Quote Originally Posted by blondandfun View Post
    Its certainly not as good as full frame or super 35
    Err... what do you mean by this? Sensor size?

    APS-C is the same size as super 35, both are 25 mm wide, 14 mm tall, if you shoot 16:9 (not counting fractions of a millimeter).

    Anyway, looks like a very nice camera.
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    "The new Sony NEX-EA50 is to date the only large sensor camcorder to have a decent viewfinder and one in the correct position"

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    One thing that scares me though is the e-mount to canon ef adapters.

    Buying something from some 3rd party source from china is scary, especially a $400 adapter. Yikes!

    That is the upside to a 3rd pary manuf. like blackmagic, is that they have no reason to be propietary.

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    This camera looks to be a thoughtful response from Sony to issues raised with the NEX FS100: no zoom motor, eyepiece position, for factor for HH shooting. It also looks plasticy, but I'm interested in it as a large sensor camera for web-destined projects of all kinds. What I'm wondering is:

    1. What is it sacrificing from the FS100 to be sold for $1000 less?

    2. If it has only HDMI out, what on-board recorder would work well with it and what would that provide in improved image/audio quality?

    3. i've read disparaging comments re: the AVCHD codec. For the web, though, and large monitor reproduction, is this a deal-killer?

    Thanks in advance!

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    Major differences in image quality between the 2 cameras. The APS-C is consumer level found on $1000 DSLRs. I think there are just a few tiny things that make it better than DSLR video (has been verified by some reporters but there isn't any anything out yet), but nothing much. The Super 35mm in FS100 is way ahead.

    Super 35mm has much better low light sensitivity.

    Don't think about it compared to the FS100, compare it to the consumer vg-20 or the t4i.

    Imagine a t4i that was usable in the real world and could record 9 hours.
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    Actually, Blood, from what I can tell it shares the same sensor with the FS100 -- both are APS-C, equal to the Super35 format in dimension. The 50 may have a "dumbed-down" version of it somehow.It has no SDI-out, only one HDMI out. I wonder how well HDMI can be split between an external monitor and a Ki-Pro type recorder. That would circumvent the 25 Mbps limit on the internal AVCHD codec when needed.

    I still hope to hear answers to the questions on my previous posts. Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by blondandfun View Post
    The Super 35mm in FS100 is way ahead.
    Once more, APS-C and Super 35mm are the same thing, if you shoot 16:9 video.

    I guess you didn't read this?
    http://www.hv20.com/showthread.php?4...UH-Camcorder#5
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    Quote Originally Posted by Halsu View Post
    Once more, APS-C and Super 35mm are the same thing, if you shoot 16:9 video.

    I guess you didn't read this?
    http://www.hv20.com/showthread.php?4...UH-Camcorder#5
    We're talking about cameras, not sensors, transistors, diodes, resisters, or whatever you want to argue about. There are a lot more variables to the equation than sensor in video. The FS100 is a better low light camera, bottom line, than this camera in discussion.

    On topic, it looks like Rokinon has just release a full spectrum of cine lenses with sony E mount, so that is a big plus because it eliminates the need to spend $300-500 on a converter adapter for Canon EOS to E mount.

    http://cheesycam.com/rokinon-cine-le...-sony-e-mount/

    The camera in discussion has much more versatality and usefulness in the real world than ANY DSLR on the market. Sure, we can all get by on DSLR, but I think most DSLR enthusiasts are probably too ignorant or not involved enough in the professional world to know its limitations. Mostly just pixel peepers who hangout on these camera forums.
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